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UPDATED  4th  April   2012

 

I would like to warn the government and every council’s Strategic Director of adult services regarding respite charges to carersof up to £100 a week, when their profoundly disabled adult’s benefits have been used up.

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Be prepared for a surge of disabled adults going into full time care, which the council must provide.

 

They have pushed carers too far. How can councils expect carers to manage with the same benefits as someone costing £550 in nursing homes, when their disabled adult costs up to £3500 a week. It’s crazy! Community Care Law is clearly being breached on three counts. ( 1 ) charging the disabled adult when his benefits have been clearly used up  ( 2 ) When the disabled adult cannot afford to pay compelling the carer to pay the carer must never pay respite charges or any other charge it must be paid by the disabled adult. ( 3 ) Transport charges to day centres are unlawfully been paid by the carer when the disabled adult has a mobility vehicle from motability that takes all the mobility component of his disability Living Allowance.This transport charge must come from this allowance therefore the charge must be free. Carers should not pay those unlawful transport charges they should use full time care or see a Community Care Lawyer to recoup the money they have wrongly paid

 

I met with Rotherham’s Strategic Director on respite charges. I laid out the financial proof as advised by Community Care Lawyers, showing how every penny was accounted for, leaving many carers to pay £60 a week over their benefits. This means the government provide a shortfall on benefits of up to £60 a week on 50,000 disabled adults. Many can only rock, shout and breath unaided, requiring around the clock care from two people. He ignored this leaving his council facing full time care.-

It is not rocket science that doubly incontinent adults require 12 extra washes and pre washes a week £24 plus 50p drying £6 = £30  ( £60 if you use the launderette ) and £35-70 ILF contributions and £10 a week to replace one garment soiled with faeces or urine  leaving carers to pay £4 out of their own pocket with no Disability Living Allowance to pay for all the disability related expenditure created by a disabled adult that would cost up to £3500 a week in care. That is why carers should pay no council charges including respite care and that is why I recommend them to use full time care. HUNDREDS ARE REFUSING NOW TO PAY THOSE UNLAWFUL CHARGES I WANT THAT TO BE THOUSANDS. THEN CARERS WILL HIT THE GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNCILS WHERE IT HURTS FINANCIALLY AS THEY ARE HITTING CARERS

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When 90% on the high rate DLA dont need to find this sum. They have no respite charges no ILF charges  no incontinence washing and drying  charges no charges for soiled garments and much less disability. They have £71 – 40 DLA benefit  to spend while the most profoundly disabled have nothing THAT IS WHY I WANT  THOSE CARERS OF PROFOUNDLY DISABLED ADULTS ON INCOME SUPPORT  CARING IN POVERTY TO USE FULL TIME CARE

IT’S BARBARIC !

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The Strategic Director, furnished with my information ignored the proof I provided. He will continue charging for respite care. He ignored the fact that the carer is paying when it should be the disabled person. He won’t ignore it when he is flooded with requests for full time care. Unfotunately they don’t have a good understanding of Community Care Law or they would not make those unlawful charges.

The Government have instructed Councils to recoup from disabled adults a percentage of the costs of Community Care so high that the only way the Council can reach that figure is by breaching Community Care Law on respite care transport and other charges on three counts. Only a fool would try to take those disabled adult on income support and their carer to court for a few hundred pounds especially when it is they who are breaking the law. Knowing they would end up with a packed suit case and up to £100,000 a year each care bill. No wonder no council has taken this step. There is no compusion to care especially in poverty.

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I recommend that carers seriously consider leaving the Government and the council to pay the cost of full time care of your disabled adult. Let your councils have the financial  worry of providing this care.

Carers pay in poverty while they save the country 119 billion pounds a year.  Lets bring down the amout of money carers save the country by a few billion. Let council directors earn their £100,000 a year wage carers care for nothing.

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This affects over 50,000 carers of profoundly disabled adults on income support. In care they would cost 4 billion, calculated at £1500 a week each.

Councils don’t deserve to have carers saving them billions. I strongly advise everyone of those 50,000 carers who are being financially abused, enough is enough use full time care for your disabled adults.

Ask your uncaring council what full time care they have available. They must provide and pay for this care. Be wary they will drag their feet about places  

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What are the options for those 50,000 caring carers who save the country billions ?

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There are five:

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( 1 ) — Pay the charges that should be paid by the disabled adult out of your own pocket.  Don’t take this option

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( 2 )—Continue taking the respite, don’t pay as you cannot afford to. I recommend this method.  Will the council take you to court for money you dont have?  I don’t think so! They would be chasing a few hundred pound to be saddled with a packed suit case and having to find £100,000 a year for full time careI The devil himself would not take a crippled adult needing round the clock care to court.

There is no compulsion to care. But the council must provide full time care when you decide. Councils have made the biggest mistake by disregarding  Community Care Law on charging disabled adults on income support 

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( 3 ) Consider putting your disabled adult on income support into full time care. Financially this would cost you nothing but cost the council up to £100,000 a year.

Full time care could save you up to £60 a week and cost the council up to £3500 a week. If six carers did this it would cost the council up to a million pounds a year. Each council has hundreds to gain by unlawful charges and millions to lose in full time care

The Government and the councils don’t deserve to have disabled adults cared for at home.

They have a record of closing day centres, shutting nurse’s bathing services and shutting laundry services. This happened in Rotherham, then they give the council leader an OBE. They must give them away like Blue Peter Badges !

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( 4 )— Take legal action against the council on the grounds that the council insists you pay the charges that should be paid by your disabled adult. Do this through a community care lawyer.

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( 5 )—See a solicitor and seek a Judicial Review

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Who is going to be the first Council Chief Executive who earn more than the Prime Minister and the first Council Strategic Director on over a £100,000 a year  to take a crippled adult and their carer to court to recoup a few hundred pounds that the carer hasn’t got and end up having to find millions

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When the alternative is full time care costing up to a £100,000 a year, should the council take court action? They could not find a Community Care Lawyer to take you to court. but you could easily find one to defend you. If as is unlikely they do use full time care and notify Mencap, Carers UK the Coalition on Charging, The Press, Television and this website and also contact a solicitor. Together we can force the government to pay more money to those 50,000 carers and stop charges on disabled adults on Income Support. There must be automatic exemption of Community Care charges for all disabled adults in receipt of income support. Then the flood of full time care will stop

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As a carer of 40 years I must recommend everyone of you 50,000 carers whom I support to use full time care if need be.The councils don’t deserve your care leaving you financial abused. While financially this will creating a big hole in the countries economy. Together we can force the councils and government to look after carers, stop charging disabled people on income support and increase the benefits of those who cost up to £2000 a week, or face mammoth costs for full time care.

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Good news:

The Coalition of Charging has linked  to our website joining Mencap,  Carers UK, Carers (Scotland ) and Action for ME. 

Lets get every carer using this website

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I challenge Mr Cameron or Mr Burstow the minister or any representative to meet me to discuss those injustices  

 

                                                                                                  CARERS RIGHTS         

 

 THIS CAMPAIGN IS AGAINST COUNCILS BREACHING COMMUNITY CARE LAW ON THREE  COUNTS  CHARGING DISABLED

ADULTS ON INCOME SUPPORT, WHEN THEIR BENEFITS ARE USED UP. THE CHARGES SHOULD BE FREE  

 WHEN THE CARER HAS TO PAY WHEN THE DISABLED PERSONS BENEFITS ARE USED UP, THIS IS UNLAWFUL THE CHARGES

SHOULD BE FREE

CHARGING DISABLED ADULTS ON INCOME SUPPORT FOR TRANSPORT WHEN ALL THEIR MOBILITY  ALLOWANCE IS  USED

 UP  ON A MOBILITY VEHICLE THE CHARGE IS MADE BY THE CARER. THE CARER MUST NEVER PAY. TRANSPORT CHARGES 

SHOULD BE  FREE. MOBILITY CHARGES MUST BE PAID OUT OF THE DISABLED ADULTS MOBILITY COMPONENT OF THERE

DISABILITY LIVING ALLOWANCE.

MANY OF THOSE CARERS  ARE LOOKING AFTER A DISABLED ADULT THAT WOULD COST UP TO £2000 A WEEK IN CARE

ON A PITTANCE OF£200 WORTH OF BENEFITS CARERS SAVE THE COUNTRY MAY 2011 FIGURES 119 BILLION POUNDS A YEAR.  CARERS CARE 

 IS FREE, GIVING OF THEIR LIVES CARING FOR DISABLED ADULTS WHO NEED CARE FROM THE  CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.

 

I RECOMMEND ALL CARERS FACED WITH POVERTY WITH THOSE COUNCIL CHARGES THAT BREACH COMMUNITY CARE

LAW  TO USE FULL TIME CARE.  I RECOMMEND ALL CARERS AFTER CARING I68 HOURS A WEEK TO

RETIRE FROM CARING AT 60 THIS WOULD COST THE COUNTRY 50 BILLION A YEAR COUNCIL DIRECTORS RETIRE AT 60

ON OVER £100,000 A YEAR AND THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE  EARNS MORE THAN THE PRIME MINISTER THEY CAN RETIRE AT 60

 WHY NOT A CARERS.  THE CHOICE IS YOURS THEIR IS NO COMPULSION TO CARE THEY WANT YOU TO CARE TILL YOU DROP

THOSE GREEDY COUNCILS MUST PROVIDE THE FULL TIME CARE WHEN YOU DECIDE TO STOP, MANY CARERS HAVE ALREADY

HAD ENOUGH AND HAVE APPLIED FOR FULL TIME CARE. IF THE COUNCILS DON’T STOP BLEEDING CARERS DRY

THE FLOOD GATES ON FULL TIME CARE  WILL OPEN.

 THEY HAVE BEEN WARNED. CARERS HAVE RIGHTS  NATIONWIDECARERS  WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED  THE GOVERNMENT

MUST STOP ALL COMMUNITY CARE CHARGES TO ALL DISABLED ADULTS IN RECEIPTOF INCOME SUPPORT OR FACE THE

 CONSEQUENCES OF FULL TIME CARE 

                                                                                       GEORGE VALENTINE

                                                                                      CAMPAIGNING FOR CARERS                           

         

              

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